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Rachael
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Posted on Tuesday, November 16, 2004 - 12:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Im 15 years old going on 16, im in 11th grade and i plan on going to college. My parents think that i should go on disability for being depressed and having bi-polar, but i disagree with them. I want to work and do things in my life. What should i do, and what would going on disability do to my life?
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Paul McChesney (Admin)
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Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 6:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Rachel, that's a good question. I am not wise enough to answer your question, and I don't know enough about your exact situation, either.

I will list every advantage of each approach and of a third approach. This will help make sure that you and your parents have considered every alternative.

Advantages of filing for disability:
1. You get a check every month for a while if you win. For how long? Hard to say.
2. If you win, you would get Medicaid (if you get SSI) or Medicaid (if you get Social Security disability).

Advantages of going to college:
1. You feel like you are doing something.
2. If you get a degree in something that not just anyone can do, and for which there is a high demand - an RN degree, for example, and there are many more - you will find that it will be much easier to get a job despite your disability. I run into many people who would be disabled, but because their degree is in such high demand, they are working anyway.
3. Over time you will get the most money, and probably like what you do best.

You don't have to go right through college in the normal manner. If you have periodic spells during which you cannot work, you might be able to get through gradually over time. Many community colleges are designed for part time attendance, which fits well with certain disabilities.

Advantages of working:
1. You get more money than by drawing disability.
2. At your age, if you work only a little for a few years, you will become eligible for Social Security disability in case you get disabled later, which is better in many ways than SSI. You get Medicare with it, and you can marry a rich man and still get benefits.

Advantages of doing all three:
For some people, work or education are a hopeless dream. For others, they would be easy if the person would just get the courage to try it. Each person's situation is a little different, but if work or education are a realistic possibility, I almost always encourage my clients to try them. The best way out, if you can pull it off, though the longest and hardest, is almost always to educate yourself out of your disability.

All of this is not to say that you should neglect a disability claim. Often you can file and keep trying to work and go to school; this sometimes makes a mess, but more often if you lose you would have lost anyway, and if you fail at work or school the pattern of failure tends to prove disability. If you try this it would be a good idea for you and your parents to talk to an attorney.

If you succeed in drawing disability, there are some great programs that are designed to encourage people to keep going to school and trying to get back into the work force.

Finally, I want to mention one thing that bothers me about the job I have, which is to try to win disability cases for people. I wish it were not so, and I encourage people not to think this way, but there are some people who are in some ways hurt by getting a disability check. They start thinking of themselves as disabled, and are afraid to let go of that image of themselves. In some ways you create yourself by imagining what you might be, and then trying to become that person. There is a real limit to how much this sort of dreaming can accomplish, but the civilized world you see around you is built of such dreams, and the power of man and womankind to dream, and then become what they dream, should not be underrated, and we are none of us wise enough to ever despair of success.
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Diane Summers
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Posted on Monday, November 22, 2004 - 11:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello my name is Diane, I'm 37 years of age and have suffered with back, leg and pain in my left foot all my life. In the last year my pain has gotten worse and has also increased in another area in which my doctor thinks is my SI (sacroiliac) joint. I was born with mild scoliosis, nervous stomach spasms, and my left foot is considered a "partial club or claw" foot. I have also developed terrible arthritis in both knees. In my "younger years" I simply "lived" with the pain, not complaining much about it to anyone. At this point not only am I experiencing alot of pain with my SI problem, but at times can barely walk because of the pain in my knees and my "club foot" cramps and hurts more intensely and often than ever in my life. I am tired all the time....and barely make it through the day without a nap at some point. I haven't worked for a year now due to all of the above, but I have worked all my life since age 15. I've recently had an MRI to my back and spine and it showed that I had a congenital fusion of two of my vertebrae, and narrowing of some of my vertebral space. What is your opinion of my applying for disability? My help with our income would be a great benefit to our family, with the constant fatigue and pain that I feel it's difficult for me to work. Please give me your honest opinion as to what I should do. Thank you in advance.
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Paul McChesney (Admin)
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Posted on Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 12:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Diane, without seeing the medical records and knowing what your work skills are it's a guess, but you should probably file. My rule of thumb is that if you can see you can't work, you should consider filing. A separate question is whether you should also continue to struggle to work. If there is no health risk, and if you can hold up to it, the answer to that question is almost, but not always, "yes." There are a lo tof posts on my forum on this working-while-disabled approach.
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I am a 55 year old male and have been diagnosed with DeQuervain's I am currently in vocational rehab. However, it is causing me a great deal of pain. Because of the amount of computer work. I also have spinal stenosis, PTSD (30% Vietnam service connected) and ankolosing spondylitis. I am on VA Voc Rehab seeking a single subject teaching credential but the work on the computer drains me. I do not know what to do. I have a phone interview for SSDI in a couple of weeks. I still want to work. But, I am not sure if teaching is right. The VA has been helpful but I think that we should have explored other careers given the fact I have problems using my hands. It is quite depressing and that does not help the PTSD. Any thoughs or suggestions?
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Posted on Sunday, March 06, 2005 - 6:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You have a lot of problems that might or might not combine to enable you to win a disability case. It is usually smart to try to cover all possiblities; in your case that would be to pursue a disability claim, keep working on the teaching unless it becomes clear it is not possible for you to do that, and explore other career possibilities, too. Take care and good luck.
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Posted on Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My wife has had seven operations on her vertabrae the last one fused her spine fron C2 to T1. She cannot drive a car, sit for more than two hours nor stand for more than 15 minutes without feeling weakness in h arms and legs or feeling dizzy. Should she apply? She has been working for most of her life since age 19. She is now 48.
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Posted on Sunday, May 29, 2005 - 7:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

That is a pretty serious operation. If she cannot persist for 8 hours at even a sit down job, she should apply. Take care.
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Jennifer Johnson (Jenniferej)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I suffered from severe preeclmapsia during the birth of my son. Which left me with epilepsy. I have been having seizures for 18 years. I received SSI for a short while back in 1993. In 1994 I got married and was cut of due to my husbands income. In 1999 I had brain surgery to try and repair the damage done to the nerve on my brain, damaged by my expereience with preclampsia. I recently applied again for disability since my seizures have started back. I also have a letter stating from my nurologist that he doesn't think I could work a full time job due to the type of seizures that I have. I am working parttime at a mental health clinic cleaning offices. But they are also worried because when I have a seizure I have no sense of who I am or where I am. I will do whatevere someone tells me to do at that time. Is their a possiblity for me to get disability. I have considered hiring a lawyer, should I?
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Posted on Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 7:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Jennifer, if you are having seizures on a frequent basis despite medication, there is a good chance that you could win a disability claim.

That does not necessarily mean you should file; if you have a job that is working out for you, you are fortunate; if you quit you might not find another. I am not saying your job is safe, of course. That is a question that you must weigh carefully.

I take it that you have gone back to work and worked enough to qualify. This illustrates an important point: If you have a serious health problem, it is even more important that you work, and report earnings, than if you are healthy, so that if your condition worsens you will have the protection of Social Security.

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Mark Vadas (Mjvad)
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Posted on Monday, October 03, 2005 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I am 31 and have had 3 back surgeries and countless procedures since I was 27. I am on 8 different medications that make it hard for me to concentrate. However, I would like to do something. So, I have 3 questions: (1) Do you know of a good site or organization that will help in finding work for a disabled person? I live in Mt. Pleasant, SC. (2) Can I work and still receive SSD? If so, how much can I make and still receive full benefits? (3) My wife owns her own business and if I become an “official co-owner,” is there a government grant or loan available to disabled persons that I can obtain to start my own business or invest in her business?

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